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Of Penn surname ancestors that were patriots in the revolution there's little doubt, as many served. In fact, you probably have much more information on this than I do as most of my research, when I was really active in it, was 17th and early 18th century colonial Virgina.
Last weekend I did a little concert for an SAR group and it got me to thinking about joining. My mother and grandmother were DAR, but I'd kind of like to prove it through the Penns to Philip Penn b. 1739. Some while back I found the following listing for him:
DAR Patriot Index - Centenial Edition Part 3 p.2273
Penn, Phillip b. 6-27-1739 d. 7-31-1806 VA m. Martha Crutcher
If anyone has entered the DAR under this patriot's name it would be of great help. None the less I'd be interested in any information on descendancys of Virgina Penns that were in the revolution.
Anyway, going back to the Virginia Penn line to England, my best guess is that the father of John Penn b. abt. 1680 was a George Penn b. abt. 1659.
On 5 Oct. 1679 John Pigg and Francis Crane received a land patent of 800 acres in New Kent Co., VA on the North side of the Mattaponi River, adjacent to William Hurk (Hurt?), William Horne, Anthony Arnold, Henry Pigg's mill path, Mill Creek Swamp and John Maddison's Spring Branch, for the transportation of 16 persons to VA, including GEORGE PENN and MARY PENDLETON. Virginia Land Patent Book 7, page 13. George Penn is reported in "Cavaliers and Pioneers", by Nugent, to be George "Denn". Viewing of the image of this patent at the Virginia State Library website- http://image.vtls.com/LONN/LO.html shows that the last name is most likely Penn. Based on proximity, timeline, and lack of other Penn surnames this George Penn is likely the father of John Penn who died in Caroline Co., VA in 1741 and the grandfather of the four Penn brothers of Caroline/Spotsylvania Cos., VA in the 1700s (i.e., George, Moses, Joseph and John, Jr.). Two of these four brothers (Joseph
and Moses) married Taylor sisters (Mary and Catherine) who were the daughters of John Taylor and Catherine PENDLETON (notice the possible connection with Mary Pendleton, an apparent co-passenger with George Penn as per the 1679 land patent). This information was compiled by Bob Allen.
As to Lucy Granville, wife of John Penn b. 1650 that are so often claimed to be the parents of the four Penn brothers there are timeline problems. From Malcolm Granville:
"I have just been reading your queries on the PENN - GRANVILLE connections. I
have a considerable amount of the GRANVILLE family documented and would be
interested to know of your information sources, as it appears very confused.
Lady Jane Wyche was born Jan 30th 1690, daughter of Sir John Wyche, was
married to Sir John Granville, the First Earl of Bath.
He was the son of Sir Bevil Granville, who was slain at the Battle of
Landsdowne in 1643
There was another Sir Bevil Granville however, the son of Bernard Granville,
brother of Sir John and grandson of the first Sir Bevil.
He had a military career, served in Flanders and later became the Governor
of Barbadoes. He died of a fever at sea in 1703. I have no record of any
descendents or marriage. The only Lucy Granville I have died in a convent in
england in 1887, a relative of the Wellesbourne Granvilles.
I do have evidence that upon the abolition of slavery that the name of the
estate owner was adopted, a common practice amongst those who had no
traceable family name. There are African-Americans with the name for this
reason.
I feel sure that the rumour is incorrect, if by the dates alone."
There was a John and Lucy Penn in Virigina:
John and Lucy lived in Rappahannock and Westmoreland counties in Virginia. Lucy Penn died ca. 1719 and John Penn died before 7 July 1721, both in Westmoreland county. John Penn left a will dated 1667. The following is recorded in Westmoreland County, Virginia, in Order Book 1721-35: t a court held July 7, 1721 "Judgment is granted Joseph Taylor against the estate of John
Penn for 10 pounds of tobacco."
Different Penns in a different region of the colony.
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