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The below was posted to the Pate Forum yesterday:
The below article is my Christmas gift to The Pate Family Genealogy Forum:
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Today I said to Ms Eileen McGrath, Assistant Curator, North Carolina Collection, Wilson Library, UNC, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, "John Pate is an ancient and favorite name in my family. You have an interesting autobiography in your North Carolina Collection by my cousin, John Pate (formerly of Ridgecrest, CA, now of Grangerville, Idaho, in the state first settled by Francois Payette, discoverer of Yosemite Valley, which was further explored by John Muir, scotsman from Lanarkshire).
In 1744 a Private Statute was recorded in England “confirming and establishing on John Pate and his issue male the surname Rose.”:
http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/slru/Private_British.doc
The above is not going to make anything genealogically easier. Pates were associated with Roses in early Wayne County, North Carolina. Dr. David Rose was kindly helpful in enabling my uncle Dr. Archibald Haines Pate to get his medical degree from Duke University. Dr. James Rose, in Pikeville, helped my cousin Dr. William Pate get his medical degree. I have no knowledge of North Carolina family connections between Pates and Roses.
In 1704 Richard Pate and Frances (his wife) sold the Lister Estate “...in Cheshire and Chester sales for payment of the debts of Frances’ father Sir Thomas Smith....”:
http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/slru/Private_English.doc
The above makes us wonder about Pate involvements in Pennsylvania. It is an interesting fact that Chester in Pennsylvania was the location of the Penn (Welsh for Pate) family shipyards. Pates were very complex in their family relationships and international involvements. This is is made clear in a statute passed in 1554 that cleared the Pate family of being outlaws and traitors, entitled “Reversal of the outlawry and attainder of Richard Pate, Bishop William Peto and others.” See above cited Website.
Pates (Petts) were famous boat builders in England, and in America in Virginia and North Carolina. Thomas Pate was the ferryman at Yorktown, Virginia, and was involved in naval affairs in Europe. Pates built boats in Bertie, Pamlico and Craven Counties in North Carolina. Roses built boats in Carteret County, North Carolina. Christopher Pate, of the Pett Shipbuilding Dynasty in England, was associated with the Battens of England.
The Pate Chestershire connection and the John Pate surname change to Rose may be significant in the Chester Rose farm location on Stoney Creek and Patetown road in Wayne County, North Carolina, between my grandparents farm (where New Hope Road intersects Patetown Road) and the Batten farm.
Can anyone in The Rose Family Forum add to this story? If so, a posting to the Pate Family Forum would be appreciated.
John Pate is an ancient and favorite name in this family. Business and social connection of a John Pate to the Duckworth family, and others, as early as the 15th century to a John Pate, a royal groom of Kent in Sussex (home of the shipbuilding Petts and Pates) is discussed at:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=5930&strquery=Pate
Articles for the Surrender of Belvoir Castle.
"Articles agreed upon betwixt Sir John Pate Baronet, on the Behalf of Sir Gervas Lucas Governor of Belvoir Castle, on the one Part, and Lieutenant Colonel Candler, on the Behalf of the Committee of Lords and Commons now residing at Grantham, on the other Part, for the surrendering up of the Castle of Belvoir, to the Use of the Parliament.
1. Imprimis, it is concluded and agreed upon by the said Parties, That the Castle of Belvoir, with all the (fn. *) Arms, Ordnance, and Ammunition, and Goods therein (more than what is hereafter (fn. †) excepted), shall be delivered into the Hands of such as the said Committee of Lords and Commons shall appoint to receive them, for the Use of the Parliament, upon Tuesday next, being the Third of February, by Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, without any Manner of imbezzling any of the said Ammunition or Goods.
2. That Sir Gervas Lucas, and all the Officers, Gentlemen, and Soldiers, in the said Castle, shall have Liberty to march away to Litchfield, with their Horses and Arms, Colours flying, Drums beating, Matches lighted, and Muskets laden with Bullet; and to have a sufficient Convoy, and Six Days Time for their safe Passage; Thirty Hostages being given by Sir Gervas Lucas for their Return of the said Convoy.
"3. Item, That the Governor Sir Gervas Lucas, Sir John Pate, and all the Officers, Gentlemen, and Soldiers, now within the Castle of Belvoir, shall have Six (fn. ‡) Days Liberty for carrying away of all such Goods as are now within the said Castle, which are properly and shall clearly appear to be their own; and to have Carts and Carriages provided for the carrying away of the same.
4. Item, That all Prisoners whatsoever within the Castle of Belvoir shall forthwith, upon signing of these Articles, be set at Liberty, and are hereby declared to be at Liberty.
5. Lastly, That the Governor of Belvoir shall send forth of the Castle To-morrow Morning, by Nine of the Clock, Francis Leake Esquire, Major Bywater, Captain Wm. Colby, and Captain John Goodman, to be Hostages for the Performance of these Articles on his Part; and that Mr. Wm. Prescott, Captain Ruddocke, Captain Buckley, and Lieutenant Hard, shall be sent to Litchfeild, to remain there till these Articles be performed on the Behalf of the said Committee of Lords and Commons.
In (fn. *) Writing whereof, the said Sir John Pate and Lieutenant Colonel Candler have interchangeably set their Hands hereunto, this 31th of January, 1645.
"Jo. Pate."
From: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 3 February 1646', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 8: 1645-1647 (1802), pp. 140-142. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=33949&strquery=Pate. Date accessed: 30 November 2007.
Can anyone add to this note on impeachment of John Pate of Leicestershire? This seems to me to be the business that prompted the great movement of Pates to America. Hastings is a surname derived from the Sussex location of the winning battle of the conquest of England by William the Conqueror, in the area from whence the Pett and Pate shipbuilders derived:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34844&strquery=Pate
Details of John Pate’s Leicestershire rebellion sound very similar to the activities of Nathaniel Pate in Virginia, which was supported by Thomas Pate, ferryman and boat builder of Yorktown.
Conference reported about Mr. Hastings's Impeachment;
The Lord Kymbolton reported the Conference Yesterday with the House of Commons; which was, "That the House of Commons have brought to their Lordships an Impeachment against Mr. Henry Hastinges, Sir Rich. Hawford, Sir Jo. Bale, and Jo. Pate, of High Crimes and Misdemeanors; in which Impeachment, the House of Commons desires their Lordships to give Expedition therein. (and following details)
From: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 8 July 1642', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 5: 1642-1643 (1802), pp. 190-193. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34844&strquery=Pate. Date accessed: 30 November 2007.:
The Impeachment of Mr. Hastings, &c.
"Whereas, by Order and Command of the Lords and Commons in Parliament, for the Safety and Defence of the County of Leicester, the Magazine of the said County was delivered into the Hands of Henry Earl of Stamford, who, in June, One Thousand Six Hundred Forty and Two, removed a great Part thereof to his Dwelling-house, called Broadgate, in the said County, for the more Safety and Security thereof:
"And whereas, in the said Month of June, several Warrants issued out, by Order of both Houses of Parliament, the one directed to the Gentleman Usher of the House of Peers, his Deputy or Deputies, the other to the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House, his Deputy or Deputies, for the apprehending of the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, for High Crimes and Misdemeanors by them committed against the said Houses of Parliament, to answer the same before the said Houses:
"He the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, well knowing the Premises; and the said Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, being then and yet Justices of the Peace of the said County; in or about the Two and Twentieth Day of the said Month of June, wickedly and maliciously, without Warrant of Law, did raise and draw out of the several Counties of Darby, Lincolne, and Leicester, Forces of Horse and Foot, to the Number of Three Hundred Persons, or thereabouts, some of them being Colliers, and other mean and desperate Persons, and divers of them Papists, and them unlawfully assembled at Loughborrough, in the said County of Leicester; where the said Henry Hastings, the Day aforesaid, made Proclamation, That, if any Persons affected to that Service wanted Arms, and would repair to the Town's End, they should be furnished therewith; and they, the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, together with the said other Persons so assembled, being armed with Swords and Pikes, and with Pistols, Muskets, and Calivers, ready charged with Powder and Bullets, and other Habiliments of War, marched along in a Warlike Manner, with Drums beating and Colours flying, and their Matches lighted, to the great Terror and Affrightment of His Majesty's Subjects, divers Miles within the said County of Leicester, to the Town of Leicester, and so through the said Town, with great Noise and Shouting, to a certain Place near to the said Town, called Horse Faire Leases, to the Intent to keep themselves from being arrested by the said Officers of both Houses of Parliament, and, in case they should be so arrested, then to rescue themselves by Force, and to the Intent likewise to take away the said Magazine by Force and Arms, and to kill and destroy the said Earl of Stamford; he the said Henry Hastings, and some other of his said Complices, giving out that they would fetch away the said Magazine with a Vengeance, and that they would have the said Earl's Life before they left, and would fire his House, and have his Heart's Blood out, with divers other such like desperate Speeches: And the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, with the rest of their said Consederates, being so assembled at the said Horse Faire Leaes, John Chambers and James Stamford, being authorized thereunto by Deputations under the Hands of the Officers aforesaid, together with Archdale Palmer, Esquire, then High Sheriff of the said County of Leicester, and divers other Persons in their Aid and Assistance, repaired to the said Place, to execute the said Warrants from both Houses of Parliament; and the said Henry Hastings, well knowing thereof, did then tell the said Chambers, That he knew he had Warrants from the Parliament as well for others as for himself; whereupon the said Chambers produced the said Warrants, and read the same openly, in the Hearing of the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, to yield Obedience to the said Warrants, which they refused to do; but, instead thereof, they and other their said Adherents did violently assault the said High Sheriff, Chambers, and Stamford, and rode upon them with their Horses; and One of the said Confederates, named Mr. Walter Hastings, with his Pistol charged, gave Fire upon the said Chambers; and some others of them drew out their Pistols, and presented their Muskets, upon the said High Sheriff and Chambers, using other Force and Violence upon them, to the great Danger of their Lives; and so the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, by Force and Arms, and in a Warlike Manner, at the Time and Place aforesaid, rescued themselves from the said Officers and High Sheriff, in Contempt of Justice, and to the high Affront and Scorn of the Parliament, and afterwards marched back again in warlike Manner into the said Town of Leicester: All which Doings of the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, were and are contrary to the Laws of this Realm, the Rights and Privileges of Parliament, tending to Sedition, and to the Danger of Effusion of much Blood:
"Wherefore the said Commons do, in the Name of themselves and of all the Commons of England, impeach the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, of the said several High Crimes and Misdemeanors.
"And the said Commons, by Protestation, saving to themselves now, and at all Times hereafter, the Liberty of exhibiting of any other Accusation or Impeachment against the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, or any of them, and of replying to the Answers which they, or any of them, shall make, or of offering any Proofs of the Premises, or any of them, or of any other Accusation or Impeachment against them, or any of them, as the Case, according to the Course of Justice, shall require; do pray, that he the said Henry Hastings, Sir Richard Hawford, Sir John Bale, and John Pate, and every of them, may be forthwith put to answer the Premises, in Presence of the Commons; and that such Proceedings, Examinations, Trials, and Judgements, may be upon them, and every of them, had and used, as shall be agreeable to Law and Justice."
The Lord Mayor's Answer to the Impeachment of the H. C.
"The humble Answer of Sir Richard Gurney, Knight and Baronet, Lord Mayor of the City of London, to an Impeachment against him, exhibited by the Honourable House of Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, the Fifth Day of this Instant July.
"This Defendant, saving to himself all Benefit of Exception to the said Impeachment against him, exhibited by the said Honourable House of Commons, saith, That he, this Defendant, is not guilty of all or any the Crimes or Misdemeanors in and by the said Impeachment against him charged, in such Manner and Form as the same are by the said Impeachment charged.
"Jo. Heron, Math. Hale,
ex Assignatione Dominorum in Parliamento."
Adjourn.
Quinta post meridiem.
Post meridiem.
PRAYERS.
The Lord Kymbolton was appointed to be Speaker this Afternoon.
Justice Foster to go the Circuit.
Ordered, That Mr. Justice Foster hath Leave to prepare himself for the Circuit; in the mean Time, to be excused for his Absence.
Letter of Complaint against the Mayor of Leicester;
The Earl of Stamford acquainted this House with a Letter, and some Informations, from Leycester, complaining of the Averseness of the Mayor of Leycester, and his Negligence in preserving the Peace there, and of the proclaiming the Earl of Stamford and others Traitors.
sent to the H. C.
Ordered, To communicate these Informations to the House of Commons; which accordingly were sent down to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Whitfield and Serjeant Glanvile.
Declaration of Herefordshire; to be sent down, to know if the County will own it.
A Paper was read, intituled, A Declaration, or Resolution, of the County of Hereford: Hereupon the House Resolved, To have a Conference with the House of Commons, and desire them to require the Knights of the Shire to send down into Herefordshire, to know whether the County will own it.
Printer, &c. of it to be attached.
Ordered, That the Master and Wardens of the Stationers Company shall find who the true Printer of the aforesaid Declaration is; and then the Gentleman Usher shall attach him, and bring (fn. *) ; and that the Gentleman Usher shall presently attach Thomas Lewes, for whom it was printed, and Hamond the Printer.
From: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 8 July 1642', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 5: 1642-1643 (1802), pp. 190-193. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34844&strquery=Pate. Date accessed: 30 November 2007.
It is my opinion that members of the Rose Clan of Scotland befriended John Pate, and/or his relatives, in exile in Scotland. Will someone please tell me if Pate descendants of John Pate should wear the tartan of the Rose Clan of Scotland?
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I hope the above will clarify and tie together many apparently unrelated notes I have posted to this Forum. Thank you for notes to the Forum that have been of help to me, in answering many questions I have had about our people.
Albert F. Pate
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